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I do not think that a new constitution will void the Diageo nor the HOVENSA agreements. We are stuck unless we can use contract law to get from under the agreements. Perhaps, congress will solve the problem by giving our cover-over money to Puerto Rico, though I doubt that will ever happen.
Well, the Govenor has stalled the Constituional Convention efforts. Luz James vows he will sue the Governor in Superior Court, requesting a writ of mandamus. This appears to be an effort in futility since the law requires the Governor to forward the document to the federal government within ten days.
The ten day window has elasped. So while a court could rule that the Governor violated the law. The court is unable to compel that the law be followed (to submit the document within ten days) since the ten day window has passed. Additionally, at the end of any ruling are two successive appeal courts. The ball is now in the hand of the Legislature.
The plot thickens even more!
What’s the next twist to this constitutional conundrom drama? Will the defeated, defiant and disturbed delegates take the decaying matter to the United Nations?
Will the deluded, desperate and delirious delegates become discouraged and give up their dream of the promised land? Their fantasy is to inhabit a land where they’ll not have to pay property taxes. Have they ever wondered how they’ll survive if only the natives remain and all the outsiders leave? Perhaps, they are now disenchanted that they will no lomger have the power to disenfranchise their African brothers & sisters. Imagine the disharmony if thse nationalists are allowed to impose their injustices.
The demonic minds of thse moral degenerates are evident in their speech. The language they use is devoid of compassion. Call it poor sentence construction if you wish, but it is obvious that they’ll like to slice senators into a half. Read Article V: “One-half of the Senators elected At-large shall be….”
Congratulations to our GOV. Let’s declare June 11, 2009, DeJongh Emancipation Day! He freed the non-natives and outsiders from paying double taxes. He dismissed the document and it is now dead.Deport the deceased to the United Nations for a proper burial.
The above commentary is only meant to amuse; I am now calling myself the “Crucian Political Satirist.”
Foncie, site name Whistle Blower, Donastorg, what’s your response to what Governor DeJongh did yesterday with the document? We’re Waiting.
When a document is provided that is also inclusive of Womens Special Rights I will consider voting for the current inclusive rights presented in the draft aimed to be accepted.
Longer ago, before men were treated poorly, women were the brunt of class distinction.
Give me a constitution that values a woman now for her suffering rape, incest, and inequality. This current proposed constitution is a Man’s constitution, not just a Native Virgin Islander’s. Those men, and their ancestors faults, need to be acknowledged, and I would like free electric, water, and food for my suffering and the suffering of my female ancestors.
There will be many disappointed people if this Constitution is not adopted. It promises benefits that are not practical.The USVI is still under the jurisdiction of the U.S.;the poor are eligible to receive food stamps, welfare and low-income housing. It is ludicrous to think a government can properly operate, if it provides free electric, water and food to alleviate suffering. What’s next? Are those incarcerated going to ask to be fed lobsters & steaks, get free passes to the theater and time to play golf?
The reason for “free land tax” is to the constitution members and their family benefits. Check how much land the family name owns and you will see why. It’s only self-interest. Maybe the governor should have sent the draft so the VI would be rediculed and CNN have a field day with the VI and the individuals that drafted the constitution for themselves, I mean for the people lol. If sent as is and returned, not getting my vote. May not even vote at all…getting tired of the same ol’same ol.
I am also against forwarding the constitution. I have issued with a person incarcerated at Golden Grove Prison casting his vote by phone. I didn’t know prisinors were allowed phone calls while in jail. For all I know it could have been a secret code to break out of jail.
My next oppositions is the eighteen year old being in the senate. This same eighteen year old that can’t gamble reponsible in our casino can now pass responsible legistlation? How backwards can the delegates be?
In my opinion, it seems that when we take one step forward, we take three staps backwards. We are our own worst enemy.
As for Redfield, he is the one that kept saying “Vitelco is solid. Vitelco is not going bankrupt. Vitelco is strong”
Don’t worry about him running. The only place he is going is to hell and back.
Why are the former delegates afraid to express their views on this site? Do they have the ability to write a proper sentence? They’re good at spewing their rhetoric on the airwaves, especially the class clown, but were not able to draft a document free of grammatical errors. Except for Gerard Emanuel and Eugene Petersen, have any others posted comments on this site? Can they survive the scrutiny and criticisms?
If any of them is reading this, I hope the challenge to respond will be accepted. Why was the document not proofread and edited before presenting it to the Gov. or the public? Why should the Gov. be coerced into forwarding this grossly flaw document? What happened to the mission to educate the public? Is it a futile effort since the document is so transparent now and the sinister motive for composing it is glaring? Why is Gerard Emanuel mute about his opinion regarding the Guv’s decision? Is it because he and his wife are unclassified government employees? It does not cost me a dime to post my comments and open myself for aspersions. What would it cost for the former delegates to utilize this site to convince the masses that the proposed VI Constitution is a better document than the Revised Organic Act? I suspect that they are only comfortable appealing to those who are illiterate and lack computer
skills. The narrow-minded callers of Mario’s talk show believe the garbage of the class clown, because they have not read the draft.The naturalized citizens who advocate to disenfranchise themselves have been indoctrinated.
The only persons who need to be educated about writing a constitution and all the processes it encompasses are those who voted for the draft. This draft is an insult to intelligent minds. It is decomposing matter and only idiots can not understand that it is not acceptable.
Was it the delegates or the drafters responsible for the spelling and grammatical errors in the document? The delegates provide their ideas and the attorneys converted it to “constitutional lingo” if I am not mistaking.
“Grossly flawed” is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. The same people complaining about errors and flaws in the document are the ones who were against time extensions and funding requests for staff. Also, don’t complain that they added sections without researching when you were against providing funding for research and researchers. When you consider the constant roadblocks the delegates faced, I am surprised a document was able to be produced. I think that’s what’s really irritating all the whiners.
Yes, I am not in full agreement with this document, however I can’t whine about it because I only participated in 3 meetings, I didn’t submit my ideas via email or phone, there were 30 diverse opinions crafting this document, the media focused on the “native rights” issue and ignored just about everything else, members of the government prevented the meetings from being broadcast on public tv stations, etc…
The governor simply needs to follow the law and forward the document whether or not he feels embarrassed by it. His first opportunity for input has passed and he will now have to wait for it to return to decide whether he will support it or not.
The governor did not violate any laws;his instruction was to transmit “such constitution.” The law referred to a proposed constitution which must adhere to certain criteria. Read the public law to familiarize yourself with the requirements or parameters under which a VI Constitution must be written.The document submitted to him failed to meet all of the criteria;therefore, the governor was not obligated to forward the “document.”
The drafters of the “document” either have a literacy problem or simply are being defiant. Which of these do you think applies? Do they comprehend the English language or did they chose not to comply with the public law?
I think the court should determine that, not the governor or attorney general. Governor deJongh should have filed a motion in court rather than issue a ruling as if he’s a judge. How on earth does he or AG Fraser rule a document unconstitutional? Please review Public Law 94-584 again and take note that while the President of the US can comment on the document, the Governor is only allowed to forward it as head of the territory.
Congress is the only one allowed to deem the document, in part or as a whole, in violation of their mandates in Public Law 94-584. As an unincorporated territory, we are a creation of Congress and, as such, they determine what laws govern us.
What must be noted is the same governor and attorney general who said that the draft constitution was unconstitutional are the same persons who convinced the legislature to pass an unconstitutional property tax act and they were the same ones who lost their arguments in two courts which found the reasoning and actions of the governor and the attorney general to be unconstitutional.
Amen! U-Turn.
Listening to Abdul Ali radio show today, there was a guest speaker. I tuned in late and don’t know who he was. However, from what I made out of his comments, he is in favor of independance or free association. He stated he was in the Cayman Island a few years ago and that they are striving. Their currency is worth more than the dollar and they have a very good banking system that can sustain the economy. All of that is very good.
The rich and famous flock to the Cayman Islands. They are the ones that built up the economy. What would we use for our currency and what means of wealth would we back it up with. A few years ago, a hurricane struck and they had to call Great Britain for help. We don’t have a work force that could fill any higher up positions. We can’t sustain ourselves with argriculture since most of our land is alread built up with homes. Just picture for a moment, the people that are on food stamps. They don’t work now and never will. Their children grows up with the same mentality. Will our seniors still receive their social security? People dying to come to the US, the land of oportunity, we trying to get rid of the US the land of hope and charity. You think crime is bad now? Break away and suffer the results. Remember the saying, “you don’t miss the water til the well run dry”
Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it.
Two men were trying to drive across a bridge from either direction. It was a very narrow bridge which allowed for only one car to pass at a time. One of the driver got ou his car and shouted to the other,” never back up for idiots” the other driver replied “that’s okay, I do”
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Free Association sounds like a fancy term for the Status Quo.
Verdel, free association is nothing like status quo because it is based on an agreement between two parties. Last time I checked, we didn’t agree to the Organic Act, (although some people think we should which would be a big mistake. Free association is based on mutual consent. That is, one party cannot impose legislation, rules, etc. on the other. This is clearly not the status quo where the feds can impose laws and regulations, and deny support at their whim. If you want to read about free association, check out the Federated States of Micronesia or Palau, or even better, check out Greenland. These are modern relations between governments, not modern-day colonial arrangements where an Interior Department continues to hold sway over us like it does the other property it controls.
No wonder our youth are freaking out…