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		<title>By: Verdel L. Petersen</title>
		<link>http://cruciansinfocus.com/2009/05/30/will-the-real-virgin-islanders-please-stand-up/comment-page-4/#comment-5760</link>
		<dc:creator>Verdel L. Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heard the recent public statements by Governor DeJonge?

There are comments that must be repeated frequently. Some VI natives are not literate;they are not reading the draft. Some prefer to remain in denial;other are simply deluded.

The EDC benefits are not exclusive to outsiders. Rich natives could qualify if they choose to. Unfortunately, Arabs, naturalized citizens and white continentals appear to be more business oriented. Study the makeup of the Chambers of Commerce. It held a meeting at the Palm this past Friday. This was an opportunity to meet your senators. Where were the natives who are concerned about property taxes and owning land? Very few natives attended this meeting.
Please enlightened me on what benefits are available to people willing to hold on to their property. I must have overlooked this clause in the draft. 
My suggestion is that the Legislature take action to correct the property taxes crises. Drafting legislation is the role of the Senate;not the role of constitutional delegates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard the recent public statements by Governor DeJonge?</p>
<p>There are comments that must be repeated frequently. Some VI natives are not literate;they are not reading the draft. Some prefer to remain in denial;other are simply deluded.</p>
<p>The EDC benefits are not exclusive to outsiders. Rich natives could qualify if they choose to. Unfortunately, Arabs, naturalized citizens and white continentals appear to be more business oriented. Study the makeup of the Chambers of Commerce. It held a meeting at the Palm this past Friday. This was an opportunity to meet your senators. Where were the natives who are concerned about property taxes and owning land? Very few natives attended this meeting.<br />
Please enlightened me on what benefits are available to people willing to hold on to their property. I must have overlooked this clause in the draft.<br />
My suggestion is that the Legislature take action to correct the property taxes crises. Drafting legislation is the role of the Senate;not the role of constitutional delegates.</p>
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		<title>By: Pandora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;when rich investors with never ending EDC benefits drive up property values around here&quot;...  Been to St. John lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;when rich investors with never ending EDC benefits drive up property values around here&#8221;&#8230;  Been to St. John lately?</p>
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		<title>By: Busted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Busted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you are able and willing to pay your property taxes when rich investors with never ending EDC benefits drive up property values around here. I have no problem accepting that you don&#039;t like the native clauses, however it would be refreshing if you would enlighten others on the benefits of the other clauses in the property tax section of the draft. Listening to you gives the impression the document only addresses property tax issues for the natives, however it clearly provides benefits for people willing to hold onto their property. In the words of Fenton...be balanced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you are able and willing to pay your property taxes when rich investors with never ending EDC benefits drive up property values around here. I have no problem accepting that you don&#8217;t like the native clauses, however it would be refreshing if you would enlighten others on the benefits of the other clauses in the property tax section of the draft. Listening to you gives the impression the document only addresses property tax issues for the natives, however it clearly provides benefits for people willing to hold onto their property. In the words of Fenton&#8230;be balanced.</p>
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		<title>By: Ten Again</title>
		<link>http://cruciansinfocus.com/2009/05/30/will-the-real-virgin-islanders-please-stand-up/comment-page-4/#comment-5727</link>
		<dc:creator>Ten Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do some choose to repeat the same thing over and over and over again, particularly when they have made their positions crystal clear? 

The draft constitution is null....at least temporarily. We cannot change what the court will do. Why keep beating a dead horse? You can&#039;t ride it. 

Anyway, at the rate the Governor is going with the unconstitutional property tax act, everyone is being exempted from paying property tax. Also, let&#039;s not forget that the goverment has been ordered to pay the plaintiff&#039;s attorney and other fees as well as daily punitive fines (I believe $5000) until the goverment comes in compliance.

This is what we should be outraged about, no longer to criticize, but to give advice for crafting a solution.

Let&#039;s focus on what we can do to assist the Governor and the Legislature in this endeavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do some choose to repeat the same thing over and over and over again, particularly when they have made their positions crystal clear? </p>
<p>The draft constitution is null&#8230;.at least temporarily. We cannot change what the court will do. Why keep beating a dead horse? You can&#8217;t ride it. </p>
<p>Anyway, at the rate the Governor is going with the unconstitutional property tax act, everyone is being exempted from paying property tax. Also, let&#8217;s not forget that the goverment has been ordered to pay the plaintiff&#8217;s attorney and other fees as well as daily punitive fines (I believe $5000) until the goverment comes in compliance.</p>
<p>This is what we should be outraged about, no longer to criticize, but to give advice for crafting a solution.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s focus on what we can do to assist the Governor and the Legislature in this endeavor.</p>
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		<title>By: ladlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>backdoor reparations,plain and simple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>backdoor reparations,plain and simple</p>
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		<title>By: Verdel L. Petersen</title>
		<link>http://cruciansinfocus.com/2009/05/30/will-the-real-virgin-islanders-please-stand-up/comment-page-4/#comment-5715</link>
		<dc:creator>Verdel L. Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hate continues. Will we ever learn from the mistakes of the past?

Our President is bi-racial/mixed ancestries.Many Crucians&#039;forefathers were Danish. This is why my complexion is a beautiful bronze. Africans here and elsewhere have beautiful skin. We are not haters like some of the bloggers to this post. Some of us are beautiful inside and outside. President Barack Obama is the best example today.Let&#039;s rejoice the fact that Africans have made significant contributions to make the world a better place. Why.then, it is necessary to blame white people for all our miseries in the VI?

If your African ancestors did not capture their relatives and trade them to the Danes, we would not be here today.Slavery was a horrible experience, but we can not undo this past. We are all free physically, but some of us need to be emancipated mentally. Stop begging for freebies from the government. Pursue an advanced degree, purchase land or start your own business. There is no law prohibiting you from accomplishing any of these goals and no white person is oppressing you.

The hate and oppression I get come from Ancestral Africans in the VI. Some delegates do not want naturalized American-Africans to enjoy their American rights and privileges. If you were born in the VI prior to 1932,do not own land, do not have a high school diploma, can not read and come from a poor family, how will you benefit from the proposed VI Constitution?

Those who are illiterate can not understand that the document can not guarantee free land to natives. You will not pay property tax, if you do not own land. Does this translate to mean those who are eligible for property tax exemptions will receive free land? Landowners generally must have financial resources to maintain their properties.The poor, whether black, white, or native will be in the same position if the draft is ratified by the electorate.The key to changing one&#039;s economic status is an education. If poor natives believe a constitution can elevate their economic status, they are sadly deluded.

God bless the child who has her own.I an happy I have a beautiful home in the VI Paradise and I am proud to be able and willing to continue paying my property taxes. I am not looking for any free lunches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hate continues. Will we ever learn from the mistakes of the past?</p>
<p>Our President is bi-racial/mixed ancestries.Many Crucians&#8217;forefathers were Danish. This is why my complexion is a beautiful bronze. Africans here and elsewhere have beautiful skin. We are not haters like some of the bloggers to this post. Some of us are beautiful inside and outside. President Barack Obama is the best example today.Let&#8217;s rejoice the fact that Africans have made significant contributions to make the world a better place. Why.then, it is necessary to blame white people for all our miseries in the VI?</p>
<p>If your African ancestors did not capture their relatives and trade them to the Danes, we would not be here today.Slavery was a horrible experience, but we can not undo this past. We are all free physically, but some of us need to be emancipated mentally. Stop begging for freebies from the government. Pursue an advanced degree, purchase land or start your own business. There is no law prohibiting you from accomplishing any of these goals and no white person is oppressing you.</p>
<p>The hate and oppression I get come from Ancestral Africans in the VI. Some delegates do not want naturalized American-Africans to enjoy their American rights and privileges. If you were born in the VI prior to 1932,do not own land, do not have a high school diploma, can not read and come from a poor family, how will you benefit from the proposed VI Constitution?</p>
<p>Those who are illiterate can not understand that the document can not guarantee free land to natives. You will not pay property tax, if you do not own land. Does this translate to mean those who are eligible for property tax exemptions will receive free land? Landowners generally must have financial resources to maintain their properties.The poor, whether black, white, or native will be in the same position if the draft is ratified by the electorate.The key to changing one&#8217;s economic status is an education. If poor natives believe a constitution can elevate their economic status, they are sadly deluded.</p>
<p>God bless the child who has her own.I an happy I have a beautiful home in the VI Paradise and I am proud to be able and willing to continue paying my property taxes. I am not looking for any free lunches.</p>
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		<title>By: Puzzled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puzzled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking for the ruling earlier and couldn&#039;t find it. Thanks Ten Again. I think this administration has failed where the previous one did. Fix the core problems so we can move on. I guess we&#039;re in for another embarassment when the courts rule that the governor and atty gen overstepped their authority with the constitution. Here we go again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking for the ruling earlier and couldn&#8217;t find it. Thanks Ten Again. I think this administration has failed where the previous one did. Fix the core problems so we can move on. I guess we&#8217;re in for another embarassment when the courts rule that the governor and atty gen overstepped their authority with the constitution. Here we go again!</p>
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		<title>By: Ten Again</title>
		<link>http://cruciansinfocus.com/2009/05/30/will-the-real-virgin-islanders-please-stand-up/comment-page-4/#comment-5571</link>
		<dc:creator>Ten Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about embarrassing and unconstitutional situations. 

I guess many know by now that the Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit has sided with the Federal District Court and has ruled against the Government in the ongoing property tax case. 

The initial suit in this case was filed in July 2000. Now almost a decade later, we can&#039;t correct the situation. The recent executive order issued by the Governor setting dates for collecting property taxes for the year 2006 now has to be vacated. This means no property tax has been lawfully collected for the years 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009.

The appeals courts stated expressed a lack of confidence in the local Board of Tax Review and agreed with the District Court that the Government was acting unconstitutionally. In part the Court stated:

&quot;Based on the evidence presented, the District Court found the Board of Tax Review was not functioning at a constitutionally required level. We find no clear
error in the District Court’s underlying findings of fact, and we agree with the District Court’s application of fact to law—that the Board of Tax Review’s functionality did not meet constitutionally required due process standards.&quot;

Hmmmmm
Wasn&#039;t the draft constitution toppled reportedly because it was unconstitutional? Whether that decision was right or not, this shows that there is room for improvement all around. It also demonstrates that it is sometimes best to let an issue run its course, so the populace is not deprived of pertinent feedback to include relevant case law.

The precedential opinion of the court can be accessed at: http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/083897p.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about embarrassing and unconstitutional situations. </p>
<p>I guess many know by now that the Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit has sided with the Federal District Court and has ruled against the Government in the ongoing property tax case. </p>
<p>The initial suit in this case was filed in July 2000. Now almost a decade later, we can&#8217;t correct the situation. The recent executive order issued by the Governor setting dates for collecting property taxes for the year 2006 now has to be vacated. This means no property tax has been lawfully collected for the years 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009.</p>
<p>The appeals courts stated expressed a lack of confidence in the local Board of Tax Review and agreed with the District Court that the Government was acting unconstitutionally. In part the Court stated:</p>
<p>&#8220;Based on the evidence presented, the District Court found the Board of Tax Review was not functioning at a constitutionally required level. We find no clear<br />
error in the District Court’s underlying findings of fact, and we agree with the District Court’s application of fact to law—that the Board of Tax Review’s functionality did not meet constitutionally required due process standards.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmmmm<br />
Wasn&#8217;t the draft constitution toppled reportedly because it was unconstitutional? Whether that decision was right or not, this shows that there is room for improvement all around. It also demonstrates that it is sometimes best to let an issue run its course, so the populace is not deprived of pertinent feedback to include relevant case law.</p>
<p>The precedential opinion of the court can be accessed at: <a href="http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/083897p.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/083897p.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Verdel L. Petersen</title>
		<link>http://cruciansinfocus.com/2009/05/30/will-the-real-virgin-islanders-please-stand-up/comment-page-4/#comment-5539</link>
		<dc:creator>Verdel L. Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let hate be the enemy. You can rant &amp; rave, but that facts remain the same.

The USVI is still a U.S. possession. If Africans were here when Columbus arrived, why did the Europeans imported more of them during the slave trade?

Visit the most beautiful homes on St. Croix and ask who own them. Does it really matter how you feel? Do you think that the owners got their houses and lands free?

Those of you &quot;Ancestral Native Virgin Islanders&quot; who believe that you&#039;ll never pay any property taxes, dream on. This is only a fantasy. I would love to not pay property taxes, but I know it is neither realistic or practical. Why would you want to be part of a society where it is legal to discriminate against a minority group? Does Martin Luther King&#039;s, &quot;I have av dream&quot;, mean anything to you?

Let&#039;s make the VI a better place. Live and let live. Most of us will not be alive a century from now;we can live in harmony today or continue to hate. Which do you prefer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let hate be the enemy. You can rant &amp; rave, but that facts remain the same.</p>
<p>The USVI is still a U.S. possession. If Africans were here when Columbus arrived, why did the Europeans imported more of them during the slave trade?</p>
<p>Visit the most beautiful homes on St. Croix and ask who own them. Does it really matter how you feel? Do you think that the owners got their houses and lands free?</p>
<p>Those of you &#8220;Ancestral Native Virgin Islanders&#8221; who believe that you&#8217;ll never pay any property taxes, dream on. This is only a fantasy. I would love to not pay property taxes, but I know it is neither realistic or practical. Why would you want to be part of a society where it is legal to discriminate against a minority group? Does Martin Luther King&#8217;s, &#8220;I have av dream&#8221;, mean anything to you?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s make the VI a better place. Live and let live. Most of us will not be alive a century from now;we can live in harmony today or continue to hate. Which do you prefer?</p>
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		<title>By: OldFart</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldFart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GladtoBeYoung,

I applaud you. Education is the only way to solve todays problems. Slavery was a horrible thing but your people lived through it. They came out stronger. Everyone compares the plight of the African descendents to European descendents in America. Compare the life of African descendents in America to Africans still in Africa. Would you rather be living in the Virgin Islands or Rwanda or maybe Liberia? 

There have been hard times but take advantage of the oportunities available in the US instead of focusing on hatred.

I have lived on St Croix full time for 12 years. My two doctors are black, my attorney is black and many of my friends are black. There is room for everyone, here and in the US.

Things have changed, one of my friends and I always joke around about our families. He knows my family and I know his. We call my dad Archie Bunker and his dad George Jefferson. We are still best friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GladtoBeYoung,</p>
<p>I applaud you. Education is the only way to solve todays problems. Slavery was a horrible thing but your people lived through it. They came out stronger. Everyone compares the plight of the African descendents to European descendents in America. Compare the life of African descendents in America to Africans still in Africa. Would you rather be living in the Virgin Islands or Rwanda or maybe Liberia? </p>
<p>There have been hard times but take advantage of the oportunities available in the US instead of focusing on hatred.</p>
<p>I have lived on St Croix full time for 12 years. My two doctors are black, my attorney is black and many of my friends are black. There is room for everyone, here and in the US.</p>
<p>Things have changed, one of my friends and I always joke around about our families. He knows my family and I know his. We call my dad Archie Bunker and his dad George Jefferson. We are still best friends.</p>
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